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Mundelein Ghost stories?

Question: Hey Scott, Do you have any Mundelein-specific ghost stories or links to any? Thanks, Craig

Response from Scott Markus: Craig, amazingly, I don’t know too much about Mundelein ghost stories. Certainly there are tons of amazing stories nearby in Cuba Road and the Gate in Libertyville. Outside of a couple of haunted houses, I don’t know of a single haunted site in Mundelein except for one – The Mundelein Seminary.

In the late ’90s I heard from a security guard that patrols the grounds that there’s a lot of paranormal activity on the site. However, being currently employed by the seminary, it was like pulling teeth to get him to say even that much. He did not get into specifics.

In winter of ’09 I stayed the night at the Seminary with Ursula Bielski. We conducted a couple of investigations and got some very strong responses. However, I would like to conduct another investigation to know exactly what we were dealing with. I will say that we believed two different entities, one a nun and the other a priest, communicated with us and neither were negative.

Do you have any Mundelein ghost stories of your own?

Also, are you in Illinois at the moment? I will be there from Thursday to Oct 10 for the Chicago Ghost Conference and the Chicago Horror Film Fest.

I need to start by prefacing this entry.  In covering ghost stories I/we are covering real life, historical events.  Largely, these events are from a deeper history where enough time has past that the wounds aren’t fresh-where time has allowed emotions to mellow.  The frequent retellings of Julia Buccola’s life, death in 1921 and the supernatural occurrences since, are accepted, even though Julia wasn’t a public figure while alive.  There are also the tragic events that, though perhaps fresh, such as the 1979 crash of flight 191 in Des Plaines or the 2003 E2 Nightclub Stampede where 21 lives were lost.  Though these events are recent, there’s a lower expectation of privacy due to their being part of national news stories.
Unfortunately, there are times when discussing the historical moments that define a town, one must mention a recent “black mark.” In the 2003 release of the book “Voices from the  Chicago Grave” I mentioned Libertyville’s so-called murder mansion that was the site of at least one Mafia killing (of Bobby Plummer) in the mid 1980s and, prior to that, a grisly slaying of Bruce and Darlene Rouse in 1980. The mention in the book, which was no longer than what you just read now, receiving quite the cryptic message from someone connected with the murders.
Later, discussing the hauntings at the site of the “House on Rainbow Road” and the mysterious origins of such hauntings, we learned of the death of seven year-old William Cokenower on the property in 1968.  To my surprise I was contacted by his sister, who, along with their father, was amazingly helpful in helping us (as a whole) understand the incident that lead to their family member’s demise and, perhaps, the hauntings that followed.
Recently someone has come to me with a story relating to a somewhat recent murder-suicide and one of the most talked about haunted sites in Chicagoland.  The person, who I do know by name, but would like to remain anonymous sent me the following message:
Went to the gate with a couple friends one night.  Back in Oct ’91 I believe.  Walked back there as far as we could before getting scared and turning back.  As we walked back, one of my friends started babbling like he was talking in tongues or something.  We thought he was fucking around but it was a little too weird.  Especially since he didn’t speak all the way home.  Two days later he took a shotgun and killed his ex-girlfriend and then himself.  Surely a coincidence.
I pried a little more.  I agreed it was pure coincidence, but still interesting to hear that one of the last acts someone did before committing one of the most heinous acts was visiting a haunted site.  For the most part, it’s just a footnote, but one would have to wonder if being in a place with a dark past would’ve had some psychological impact on his future actions.
Eventually, I was able to get the name “Chris Trevino” out of my source.  At that point I was able to verify that the timeline is accurate.  Chris did indeed kill his ex-girlfriend before turning the gun on himself.  His girlfriend died on the spot and Chris died four days later.
The following articles are some of the resources I used to verify the story I was told.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1991-11-05/news/9104090624_1_shotgun-two-other-girls-halloween-dance

Upon reading these articles, my curiosity is piqued in regards to a connection between the “speaking in tongues” episode and the tragedy two days later.  As you’ll see in the articles, Chris was a well liked, educated and completely ‘together’ individual.  Granted, high school relationships are some of the most tumultuous imaginable.  However, it does seem noteworthy to me that this pretty well-adjusted and highly intelligent kid did what he did and just two days earlier was talking in tongues in a place where there are actively some very negative entities.
I am in the middle of a documentary that deals with current unsolved murders where the coroner has requested paranormal investigations.  We are tremendously timid about doing anything that might be construed as exploitive or disrespectful.  At the same time, this world of ‘ghost hunting’ isn’t about getting cheap thrills and scaring ourselves, but about answering a plethora of questions.  Unfortunately the murder-suicide of 1991 won’t have anymore questions answered, but this is a little bit of anecdotal evidence.  Maybe it’s nothing, but then again, that’s not for a single person to decide.

Ghostly conversations in a haunted Inn

Story:  Scott, first of all, I am a total skeptic to anything that is paranormal.  In 1998 my wife and I booked a night at a Bed & Breakfast called the Inn at Pine Terrace in Oconomowoc, Wisconsin.  The night was mid-week and we were the “only” ones booked in for the evening.  The only staff on hand was a elderly woman who checked us in for the evening.  The Inn is very old and has had many distinguished people who stayed over the years.
Our room was on the second floor of the Inn and as I mentioned, we were the only guests that evening.  After getting settled in the room, my wife wanted to sit in the whirlpool in the bathroom area.  I told her that I’d watch some television while she unwound in the bath.  I laid on the bed and after a few minutes I heard some conversations outside our room in the hallway area.  I remarked to my wife that there must be other guests checking in as I heard the talking outside our room in the hallway area.  I decided to peek out our door into the hallway to see who was checking in.  As I peered into the hallway there was no one there and no conversation heard.  The second floor is divided into six or seven rooms.  I again laid on the bed and started to watch television when the conversations started again.  The sound of talking was rather loud but the words were undistinguishable.  I again got up and went out into the hallway.  The Inn keeps all the room doors open til guests check in so I personally peeked into each room and no one but us were on the second floor.  I again went back into our room and about ten minutes later heard the conversation start again but lasted only about two minutes and that was the last I heard for the night.  It was hard for me to fall asleep that evening and finally did so around mid-night.
The next morning we ventured downstairs to the first floor level where the Innkeeper is located.  The Innkeeper was another elderly woman who must have releived the woman from the night before.  I mentioned to the Innkeeper that I was happy that there were other guests who must have checked in besides us and she informed me that there was no other parties registered or who were in the Inn.  I told her that I heard several conversations the night before and she said that in the lobby was a guest book along with several newspaper articles about the Inn.  I got a cup of coffee and went to look at the guest book.  The newspaper articles stated that there was a young girl who committed suicide on the third floor in the late 1800′s and that the family who owned the house were known to bury their dead in the basement.  This kind of made me a little uneasy.  I again went back and asked the Innkeeper if she was sure no one else was in the Inn the prior evening and she said she was sure.  She said that besides herself the only other people in the Inn was kitchen help who arrived around six am to get breakfast started.  The newspaper articles went back about a hundred years and there was mention of people who thought the Inn was haunted.  As I stated, I am a skeptic until proven different and I came away from the Inn with more questions than answers.  Over the last few years we have often thought of going back to the Inn but haven’t done so.  I am not sure of what I heard but I know that it sounded like three or four people were outside our room that night and very close to our rooms door.  The Inn serves breakfast in the basement and  we decided to skip breakfast and get back on the road.  This was quite the experience and I’m not sure that I want to experience it again.
Mark and Barb Colrud
Reply from Scott Markus: Barbara, Thanks so much for your story!  There isn’t much online about this location being haunted, so the search of the origins of those phantom conversations is only beginning!

I wonder if the people who run the location are still so public about the dark and possibly haunted history of the site.  It seems strange that the tale of the suicide and burial are detailed in the scrap book they keep on-hand.  Their current website, understandably glosses over those darker passages (http://www.innatpineterrace.com/History.htm)
Again, thanks for sharing & if I ever get the chance, I’ll snoop around there a little myself!  If anyone else has visited this site, please leave a comment!
Reply from Mike: Scott….Thank You for the reply.  As I mentioned to you that I am a true skeptic at best but our experience at the Inn at the Pine terrace was truly unnerving to say the least.  I would think that if you email the Inn at their web site that they “may” confirm some of the strange things that occur at the Inn.  My wife and I may still stay there sometime before this upcoming winter and if so, I’ll let you know if we have any unusual occurences.  Best wishes…Mark Colrud

Nevada City, CA haunted sites

Submitted by Scott MarkusHaunted Nevada City, CA
I recently visited Nevada City, CA, a historic town. Absolutely gorgeous little town. Much like Jerome, AZ, a place so old and so preserved, is bound to inspire some ghost stories.

PhotobucketNevada City History Museum – This museum doesn’t only contain immediately local historical artifacts, but also from nearby Truckee, where the Donner Party met their infamous end.  According to the book, The National Register of Haunted Places by Dennis William Hauck, a female ghost still plays a piano here.
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Nevada City Firehouse

The National Hotel, Nevada City, CA HauntedThe National Hotel, Nevada City, CA HauntedIt wasn’t until after I left Nevada City that I visited TheShadowlands.net and learned that Nevada City boasts another haunted site – The National Hotel.  By chance I snapped the following two pictures.  The National Hotel is the green building on the right side of the road.

Do you have any Nevada City ghost stories?  Post in the comments below!

Wolfe Manor Hotel / Andleberry Estate – Demolished?

Submitted by Scott Markus
So, naturally, after seeing the “Ghost Adventures” episode of the haunting at Wolfe Creek Manor (also known as Andleberry Estate) in Clovis, CA, I wanted to take a look for myself. I’ve been crisscrossing the state a lot recently and have even passed through Clovis. However, after attempting to make contact with the property owner and not yet getting a response, I did a little (virtual) digging and located the property on GoogleEarth (God bless that program). It appears that there are no longer any structures on that land. Anyone know the scoop? Do I even have the correct location? Let me know anything at all.

Wolfe Manor Hotel Site

Your True California Ghost Stories

My official announcement about doing a book on California ghost stories. I wanna hear everything you have to share. In this episode I talk about the Pasadena Suicide Bridge, Hollywood Forever Cemetery, the Queen Mary in Long Beach, the site of a former asylum in Lancaster, Shadow Ranch Park & Capistrano Avenue in West Hills, CA

Edit/Update:  Since first posting this video on YouTube, I’ve gotten some great comments.  A few are posted below:

* Two summers ago I went to Shadow Ranch Park with couple of friends of mine.  Here’s the story: the actual house you see use to be a ranch with a family etc etc. they had a son named “Blue” whose room is the on the 2nd floor to the right facing the house. it is said he died tragically on a horse riding accident. we know this because when we visited, the two workers there were so nice to give us a tour of the place.

The Lancaster Asylum is on 80th St west and f-12. you can see it on google maps it looks like 5 white boulder things making a circle on the map.

* I went to preschool at Shadow Ranch Park and it was my hang out in the 70′s as a teenager. The house has a few secret rooms long since boarded up. Also the author of The Wizard of Oz lived there around the same time the book was written. The story was that the original owner committed suicide. As a teenager we use to sneak in the house at night and never once did I see or hear anything paranormal. Although it would not surprise me if someone did!  A few miles away is Munits Cave. This has an interesting story of murder involving a Shaman and the son of an indian Chief . Also known as the bat cave,

In October 2010 I lead a Chicago ghost tour from the city’s northside through Lake Forest. We visit the following haunted locations: Red Lion Pub, Biograph Theater, Dillinger’s alley, Montrose Cemetery, Bohemian National Cemetery, Barat College, Calvary Cemetery.

From John: (originally a comment on the 4/6/09 post) My friends all have been talking about Cuba road and all of the ghost stories for awhile. I live in Deerfield not that fa away from Barrington. Some of the stories I’ve heard are about putting baby powder on your car on the railroad tracks. If you wait long enough (which is incredibly stupid because you are waiting in the middle of the road let alone middle of the tracks) you can feel your car shaking. When you go out and look at your car, you will see small handprints on the back and big handprints on the front. The reason for the handprints are because a school bus got stopped on the tracks and a train hit it. The little handprints are the kids that died in the bus when the train hit it. It is said that they are trying to warn you and push you off the tracks while an evil spirit is trying to keep you onthe tracks. Pretty spooky. Any comments on the story if it is true or false? Also, where is the best place to get a guarantee of the ghost car sighting?

Also, I have heard other stories that if you roll down the windows on your car and stop the old rickety wooden bridge not that far away from Cuba road and you turn your car off you can hear the sounds of a little boy choking himself and a bike chain rattling with the leaves rustling when there is no wind. Also some have actually seen a little boy fishing, taking the fishing line, cutting part of it off, wrapping it around his neck, choking himself, then falling into the water. When they go down to the river underneath the bridge, the fishing pole is gone!

Response by Scott Markus:  The story about the Cuba Road bridge involves a man in black appearing in front of your car on foggy nights.  In the area there are tales about the ghost of a small boy, but the exact location is related to the site of the “House on Rainbow Road.”  The best place to see a ghost car?  Well, nothing is predictible of course, but I would guess that along the stretch of road that goes past White Cemetery is probably your best bet.  Vanishing cars and trucks have been seen all over Cuba Road including an entire funeral procession that ends at White Cemetery itself.

As for your railroad tale, there indeed is a story of a phantom train seen crossing Cuba Road, not far from the bridge, however, the story you’ve been told is a a version of a very famous ghost story that’s around 80 years old.  Read more about that here: http://voicesfromthegrave.blog.com/famous-legends/

Laurel Canyon ghosts

I just got a frantic call from a singer/songwriter (we’ll call Lynn) who was in a recording studio in the Laurel Canyon area who had a session interrupted by a shadowy figure that appeared on a wall in front of her.

Laurel Canyon is an incredibly haunted area.  Just last week Mary Czerwinski gave me a small, impromptu tour some some of the haunted sites she knows of.  It may be the most densely haunted area I’ve been in outside of Archer Avenue in Justice and Summitt, Illinois.  There will certainly be more stories of the ghost stories and history of Laurel Canyon on these pages in the near future.

Do you have a Laurel Canyon ghost story?  Would you interpret Lynn’s encounter different than I?  Please let me know in the comments below!

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Story: Hi scott my name is Sarah.  A few friends and I went to visit this cemetery and stumbled on some images that I hope you can help me understand. I have pictures of mist,orbs and what looks like a man.
I’m only sending you a few pictures of river road, because there was more activity at the cemetery. If you would like to see more photos from River Road I will send you them.
The picture of me sitting interests me because in the first picture there is an orb, and the next picture if you look, looks like mist is  in the same spot. (these two are  picture is taken at River Road)
Also the picture titled mist is at river road, I took a picture just a second after I noticed the mist, and nothing was in the second photo.
Also the picture that looks like it could be an older gentleman in a suit, thats the only picture I edited, and the only edit is the red around him to show you what I am talking about.
None of us was smoking at any time while I was snapping shots. It was pitch black out.
If you have time can you please look through these and tell me what your opinion is.
thank you ;]

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